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I think that with current tensions and several groups of hackers with a history of successful attacks against Iran (not only Predatory Sparrow/Gonjeshke-Darande, but also "Uprising till Overthrow" and Edalat-e Ali ("Ali's Justice") and , this is quite likely. With the clarification which I got "This question is concerned with a cyberattack that damages or interrupts the normal functioning of critical infrastructure as mentioned in the clarification" one can say that something not as spectacular as taking down the website of a bank (Financial services) or Iranian government media website (Information technology) should still count. The imprecise definition of what counts as "critical infrastructure" in the resolution criteria seems to be a potential weak point here. I will ask the team for another clarification.

@cmeinel - as an expert on that matters, do you think that the cases I mentioned above should count towards resolution as "yes"?



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Normally freelance hackers don't manage to do much harm to critical infrastructure.  Part of the reason is that they usually aren't that good, and they like to do something that they can brag about. Hence the defacing or shutting down of websites while leaving their calling cards. Even the worst instance of shutting down websites, the Code Red attacks, only caused minor inconveniences, for example, barge traffic on the Mississippi River when locations of the constantly moving sandbars were unavailable. The sand bars move slowly enough except in floods that missing a day or two wasn't serious. I might be wrong on how our scorers might view this, but since Iran has no navigable rivers, this is just a hypothetical.

The serious hackers are with the U.S., Israel, and other governments. Another hacker axis is Russia, China and North Korea, although I haven't heard of those nations cooperating. Also, many (most?) of Russia's top hackers fled rather than participate in the war on Ukraine. As with Stuxnet, they can collaborate among allied nations. The truly great attacks require teams of hackers and just plain luck. So just having the intention of a cyberattack doesn't mean they can do it before a deadline. The wait for a breakthrough is long, and the damage repair timeline is short.

Note also that research on the personalities of hackers by Bernadett Schell using participants at the Defcon hacker convention found that most hackers are fairly ordinary in terms of good attitudes and ethical practices. Research by Bugcrowd which offers hacker challenges paid for by the US government and major corporations found significant tendencies toward autism spectrum and ADHD. But no out-of-the-ordinary tendency toward sociopathy or psychopathy.

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I am staying at 5% for now - I still see that this is not that unlikely with

  • 8 months until the question deadline,
  • the presidential campaign, where both Biden and Trump may want to play the China card by acting against any possible threats to national security to score some points (TikTok bill is one of the signals here) 
  •  China may do something seriously threatening toward Taiwan, which could provoke more pressure on tech companies from both the US government and general public to limit their cooperation with Chinese-based scientists and their presence in China.
  • China may use generative AI to affect the US elections, as Microsoft itself warned. @ctsats wrote a great article with good argumentation of why generative AI is unlikely to affect elections, but I think that lessons from the Cambridge Analytica case show that the media narrative and public perceptions matter a lot more than the effect such actions may really have.  

Interesting relevant recent developments:

The Information: Microsoft Takes Down AI Model Published by Beijing-Based Researchers Without Adequate Safety Checks

Microsoft’s Beijing-based research group published a new open source AI model on Tuesday, only to remove it from the internet hours later after the company realized that the model hadn’t gone through adequate safety testing. The team that published the model, which is comprised of China-based researchers in Microsoft Research Asia, said in a tweet on Tuesday that they “accidentally missed” the safety testing step that Microsoft requires before models can be published. Microsoft’s AI policies require that before any AI models can be published, they must be approved by the company’s Deployment Safety Board, which tests whether the models can carry out harmful tasks such as creating violent or disturbing content, according to an employee familiar with the process.
In a now-deleted blog post, the researchers behind the model, dubbed WizardLM-2, said that it could carry out tasks like generating text, suggesting code, translating between different languages, or solving some math problems. The model is an improved version of the first generation of WizardLM, an open source model published by the same group last year. While WizardLM-2 has now been deleted from open source repositories like GitHub and Hugging Face, it was online for several hours, meaning it’s possible some users were able to download the model before it was taken down.
The episode comes as Microsoft aims to navigate growing political scrutiny over the development of AI in China. The Biden Administration has imposed limits on which AI models and hardware made by US companies can be deployed in China, and has reportedly questioned Microsoft about how the company will ensure that its Beijing-based lab develops cutting-edge technology safely.

I don't think that this safety failure will have any significant consequences itself, but it can be used as an argument against the Lab in China, if the pressure on Microsoft to close the lab rises,.
This article U.S., Microsoft elbow China's AI in Gulf shows that the US government cooperated with Microsoft to sideline China in providing AI infrastructure to U.A.E.
Tagging also  @cmeinel @NukePirate @Perspectus @Tolga @NoUsernameSelected  @PeterStamp  
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With 2 days left, I confirm my final forecast.

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I am updating slightly based on the reply which @ctsats got from the head of the HWC, Prof. Abel Méndez (https://twitter.com/ProfAbelMendez) (Impresive work Christos! Thank you for sharing!) Especially professor's guess of the number of planets added this year (as 5 to 10). We must however note that if my previous analysis is right (see my previous forecasts here) 7 exoplanets were added to the catalog this year (6 from 2023 and one from 2015), as I explained here, professor likely counted some of them as if they were added the previous year - otherwise he would say 7 to 10, right? So it is hard to interpret how many (if any) he already counted for this year, and our period of analysis is different, it doesn't include January this year, but in fact includes January 2025 (despite 31st of December 2024 being mentioned in the question title). Still, we have a full-year period that way and unless this high assessment from the professor if heavily based on the planets already added to the catalog this year before the question was published and not counting towards the resolution, this assessment is still useful information.   

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Reducing slightly. Before I dig deeper into the WayBack Machine it is hard to evaluate how likely are new additions from the previous year, and what is the real cause behind these additions (I wrote about some possibilities I came up with, below).

I still wonder why they added the one from 2015 this year - they already have potentially habitable exoplanets  from all years since 2013 in the catalog, and we have 8 from 2015 (5.1% of all 875 exoplanets discovered that year), while we also have 8 for 2014 - only 0.9% from all 875 exoplanets discovered that year. 2016 also has a low share of habitable worlds in comparison to 2015 - only 11 from 1517 (0.7%). I wonder what is the cause behind these differences. I still need to understand the process of evaluating habitability of the exoplanet better - maybe for some methods we don't have enough data to judge if the planet is potentially habitable if other observations are not made? Maybe some new information about K2-3 d changed the previous assessment of its habitability? Last update in P_UPDATE column for this exoplanet is from 10.07.2023, so that would make sense. I must read more about this exoplanet.
Also do they have three values: 1) potentially habitable, 2) not habitable, and 3) not known/not enough data? Or maybe the research team behind the catalog is still evaluating some of the exoplanets found in the past? My intuition tells me that this is more likely because of new data, like about new information about the water world ("LHS 1140 b is a potentially habitable water world").

Also, I wonder about the candidates awaiting confirmation - if confirmed, would they be assigned as a year of being discovered to the year of first spotting (when they become candidates) or the year of confirmation? There is so much I do still not know about all this.

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Great point @ctsats! Thank you. I will write a clarification request soon, and can also write about this on our Discord. 
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By finding the url address of the previous version of the catalog website and by analyzing archived versions of both websites (for details, please see my a bit chaotic rationale here and comments to it, especially this and this) , I was able to on the previous  was able to establish that this year there were 7 exoplanets added to the catalog as potentially habitable, including one added on March 21 after the question has started (it is TOI-904 c - publication about it is from December 2023 - do not to confuse it with LHS 1140 which was already in the catalog - see this comment for details), so this one counts towards 5 needed for the resolution as "yes".

So the planets added this year are all 6 discovered in 2023:
TOI-700 e 

TOI-715 b

HN Lib b

Wolf 1069 b

GJ 367 d

TOI-904 c (added to the catalog on the 21st of March, so it counts toward the resolution, but it shows that some potentially habitable exoplanets discovered in the late 2024 might not be added to the catalog in time to be counted for the resolution, so this kind of nullifies advantage we got from TOI-904 c being counted late)

The last exoplanet added to the list this year is K2-3 d and what is critical information, it was discovered in 2015 (see this comment for how I established it). So now we know that the researchers behind the catalog are not only adding the most recent discoveries but are also analyzing exoplanets discovered in the past (see this chart) - without further analysis of archived data it is hard to say how often they find something they have not yet found in the previous years, but 2014 and 2016 gave them a lot of material, and they might be still analyzing some of it. So there is a chance that this will be a source of some additions to the catalog this year (or in January 2024) as well.

Tagging @404_NOT_FOUND @ctsats @cmeinel @probahilliby @PeterStamp @ScottEastman @NoUsernameSelected @DimaKlenchin @WeirdAwkward @guyrecord @Perspectus @JJMLP 

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I need to understand their update pattern and research vs publication (update on website) timeline. Will they soon go dark until January 2024? 


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To paraphrase John F. Kennedy: The greater my knowledge increases, the more my previous ignorance unfolds.  It is great to be with a team with awesome thinkers like @ctsats and others here, who never stop digging deeper and challenging their own understanding of the matters we forecast about. Highly recommended comments by Christos are here and here.


*** UPDATE: 2024-03-30 - I was wrong about the P_UPDATE column in my rationale I presented below - see my comment below or follow the link. ***

So, the insight about Kepler no longer being active for years cannot be read strongly since as @ctsats explained, there are still 3353 candidates exoplanets found by Kepler which still wait for confirmation or disconfirmation, and about 5000 candidates in total.

Now, things get interesting because the discovery rate is not the same as the rate of updating the catalog on resolution website and as @ctsats pointed out the year of discovery is not equal to the year of exoplanet being added to the catalog.
The most recent update (March 21st) added TOI-904 c to the catalog. This exoplanet was discovered in 2023 (This publication listed here was published on December 7 2023), so we may think that there is a time lag of 3,5 months between publication of the article announcing the discovery and the planet being added to the catalog. But the problem is that as Christos mentioned, this is the third planet added to the catalog this year (in fact seventh if my analysis below are correct). We can confirm this with WayBack Archive for the copy of the website from the 9th of January this year: https://web.archive.org/web/20240109164551/https://phl.upr.edu/hwc


  So before the question was published they added two more planets - I initially assumed that the most recent ones were added to the top of the list that would give us: 
TOI-700 e

TOI-700 d

So the problem is that TOI-700 e was announced in this publication from February 16, 2023  https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/acb599 and reported in the news in March https://theconversation.com/distant-star-toi-700-has-two-potentially-habitable-planets-orbiting-it-making-it-an-excellent-candidate-in-the-search-for-life-198274 this suggest about a year delay, much longer than with the latest publication.

 And TOI-700 d was discovered on January 3, 2020 (Wikipedia specified the daily date, often I only see there a year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOI-700_d) and the publication is from August 14, 2020: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/aba4b2

I read this shortening intervals between the publication and addition to the catalog that the team behind the Habitable Worlds Catalog is themselves catching up to with the publications. So their three recent additions covers between 2020 and December 2023 but we now have 6 habitable or potentially habitable exoplanets discovered in 2023 in the catalog. This looks like they were adding both recent ones and some from the past. There is potential that they will add more exoplanets, which were discovered in the previous years but are not yet in the catalog. 
@ctsats I think we can learn more by the WayBack Machine on Archive.org, the trick is to know that the catalog has chaned its name and because of that also the website. I found the previous url by looking at Wikipedia editions history: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets&oldid=1209717803 the previous url is https://phl.upr.edu/projects/habitable-exoplanets-catalog - if we work on that archived links we can learn how fast they were adding the exoplanets to the list and how often the list was updated (unfortunately interactive list of planets doesn't work in the recent versions of the website and many of the archived versions doesn't even have the number of planets visible - the total number is visible from December 2022). A year before the question opened there were 63 exoplanets on the list so they added 7 till now  https://web.archive.org/web/20230228020942/https://phl.upr.edu/projects/habitable-exoplanets-catalog but what is interesting the archived version from 31 December 2023 still shows 63!  https://web.archive.org/web/20231231171144/https://phl.upr.edu/projects/habitable-exoplanets-catalog - That would mean that they added 7 exoplanets to the catalog this year around the time of reorganization related to creating the new website in January this year.

What is interesting, between December 2021 and December 2022 the catalog was updated only once: https://web.archive.org/web/20221204232019/https://phl.upr.edu/projects/habitable-exoplanets-catalog - we can see 61 exoplanets here.
before that, we can see on version from December 2nd 2022  https://web.archive.org/web/20221202224039/https://phl.upr.edu/projects/habitable-exoplanets-catalog "Last Update: December 6, 2021" - but in the csv we can see that they have been doing more updates to the catalog that year (see my table below - not all updates mean that the exoplanet was added, at some cases information about previous exoplanet was updated).

We previously established that P_Year is a year of discovery, P_Update must be the last update date of any column. If based on the WayBack Machine archived version from 31 December 2023, we now know that 7 planets were added to the catalog this year, than we know that this must be some of the 8 with most recent update dates from this year, in the eight case I guess some other column was updated rather than it being added to the catalog. See my table below:

(sorry, one exoplanet from 2023 is not colored above - my LibreOffice Calc keep crushing and I lost the table)

This means that from the 7 added this year at most 2 were from 2023, and at least one was from 2013 (because there are two exoplanets from 2013 and at leat one must have been added this year).

If they keep up with this rate of public updates and if they will still be adding exoplanets discovered in previous years I think it makes it very probable, but I am not sure how they are organize -  maybe the current updates are based on the past months of work, and new updates may require similar months of work. At the same time, if the additions are mostly from the previous years that unfortunately might mean (depending on the Question Team intentions), that resolution criteria may not fit well to the question of new exoplanets being found to be habitable since these exoplanets might have been found to be habitable many years ago. I guess the scientists behind the project put their own work into the habitability evaluation process and not only copy the results from others work, so that still makes sense because it becomes less about discoveries of new exoplanets and more about discovering exoplanets habitability.      

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If this does not happen, I guess that should be the result of the team behind Habitable Worlds Catalog research (maybe they are all now publishing results from their past few months) and updating schedule (something like going back to work and not updating anymore like their one update in 2021, but I don't think it is probable, at the same time last year they were not publicly updating the catalog between February and December). It might also be the result of team catching up with the scientific publications from the previous years, but that seem less likely. 
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@404_NOT_FOUND  @ctsats @cmeinel  We can get the estimate about when exoplanet was added to the conservative sample of potentially habitable worlds by analyzing the images on the archived version of previous website: 

For example:

the image from the January 2024:

From the 5th January 2023:

 

So these are the new ones:


TOI-700 e  was discovered in 2023

TOI-715 b was discovered in 2023

Wolf 1069 b was discovered in 2023

K2-3 d was discovered in 2015

So we were able to find 7th exoplanet added to the list in 2024 (the only one that is not from 2023) and it is K2-3 d from 2015. It is important information because the fact that it is not some exoplanet found in the late 2022 confirms that they can add exoplanets which were already found many years in the past but are now found by the researchers to be fitting to the potentially habitable world criteria. 

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